Areópago

ah, pues me he liado,
era el mig-17, una cosa más robusta si cabe, claro

¡póngale alas a esto!...
y queda asi de resultón:

pues si K no sabe que cojones hacía esto por ahí tirada en un playa de Almería, no lo sabe nadie
https://www.elconfidencial.com/espana/andalucia/2022-08-03/explosivos-almeria-tedax-policia_3470973/

Baku puede confirmar como se arma esa mierda, ¿verdad Baku?
Joder, parece un chat entre viejos gudaris

https://old.municion.org/espoletes/ExpalC5.htm
"bajo pedido puede fabricarse en otros colores (menos cantosos, esa cosas tanejpañola de, joder, primero que la veamos, a ver si la vamos a pisar nosotros mismos)"

Cita de: PP2000 en Agosto 03, 2022, 07:03:49 PM
pues si K no sabe que cojones hacía esto por ahí tirada en un playa de Almería, no lo sabe nadie
https://www.elconfidencial.com/espana/andalucia/2022-08-03/explosivos-almeria-tedax-policia_3470973/

Baku puede confirmar como se arma esa mierda, ¿verdad Baku?
Joder, parece un chat entre viejos gudaris

Esa es de prácticas, no echa más que humo si le pasa por encima un trailer de seis ejes por lo menos, puedes bailar pogo encima tranquilamente, y de hecho puse alguna.

Y no, no me acuerdo de como se montaban.

Cita de: Baku en Agosto 03, 2022, 10:21:27 PMY no, no me acuerdo de como se montaban.

Más te vale
El Tedax del CNP (creo que del CNP) que ha pasado el reportaje a comisaría dice que de guerra sin armar.
El código de colores Expal (en la web citada) es congruente con:
a) lo que yo se de pintar de azul cobalto bien cantoso la de ejercicios y de, amarillo limón?, la de aprender a montar y desmontar (destinado, Tedax again)
b) lo que dice el periodista que dice la policía
c) lo que dice K de que eso ha llegado de Siria a las playas de los rusos con posibles (entre otros), de que ojo no vayan a montarle un temporizador con cosas en fósforo del Carrefour Garden

Cita de: PP2000 en Agosto 04, 2022, 06:51:12 AM

Cita de: Baku en Agosto 03, 2022, 10:21:27 PMY no, no me acuerdo de como se montaban.

Más te vale
El Tedax del CNP (creo que del CNP) que ha pasado el reportaje a comisaría dice que de guerra sin armar.
El código de colores Expal (en la web citada) es congruente con:
a) lo que yo se de pintar de azul cobalto bien cantoso la de ejercicios y de, amarillo limón?, la de aprender a montar y desmontar (destinado, Tedax again)
b) lo que dice el periodista que dice la policía
c) lo que dice K de que eso ha llegado de Siria a las playas de los rusos con posibles (entre otros), de que ojo no vayan a montarle un temporizador con cosas en fósforo del Carrefour Garden

Pues puede ser, hace más de 30 años y solo las vimos una vez, a fin de cuentas nuestra parte del invento no era plantarlas sino reventarlas con el TOA.

Cita de: Baku en Agosto 04, 2022, 09:52:02 AM...a fin de cuentas nuestra parte del invento no era plantarlas sino reventarlas con el TOA.

- mi comandante, el TOA de ingenieros, listo para abrir un ancho seguro
- mmmm, ...Don Ramiro, lo que dice el cabo Baku?, confirma?
- legio expedita!, qui habet aures audiendi audia!
- Ah, vale, vamospallá

Cita de: PP2000 en Agosto 04, 2022, 10:07:35 AM- mi comandante, el TOA de ingenieros, listo para abrir un ancho seguro
- mmmm, ...Don Ramiro, lo que dice el cabo Baku?, confirma?
- legio expedita!, qui habet aures audiendi audia!
- Ah, vale, vamospallá

¿En qué parte he dicho que se tratara de algo premeditado?

Y es "cabo primero".

Cita de: Baku en Agosto 04, 2022, 10:27:00 AMY es "cabo primero".

Bueno, hay cabos de rallado rojo, al fin y al "cabo" eras conscripto
A la vista está que el más espabilado del batallón
Pero, uno no sabe de todo, y aquí lo que no sabes te lo inventas

ya es oficial
soy un rancio
un rancio con carné del pecé
pero un rancio


veis esta belleza
es el BGR-15 de la muy belga Fabrique Nationale / Herstal
la del FAL
ese fusil
pues no vendió una puta mierda
porque era un producto para exportación (para matar negros, para abreviar)
y había una sobreabundancia de la misma cosa en 14.5 soviética, el KPV y sino, pues la benemérita (más antigua que la IWW, la Mark1, la .50 yanqui, para los que no compraran soviet)
y FA quebró
y
ME HE CAGADO EN LA PUTA URSS
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snif!

cosas RANCIAS del mercado de armamento que molan... tiene pinta de estar bien documentado, si no lo está es un aeropagita acreditado en el muy londinense (hasta Sept 1987, que lo cerraron con la famosa frase, "escándalo!, he descubierto que aquí se juega!") Logistics Support Centre of the Islamic Republic of Iran Air Force (la calle no la pone, pero bueno, estaría cerca de algún kebab.. ké bah!.
a lo que voy.
España Y Putugal, con la UCD y el primer tramo de Isidoro cuando aun no era Mr.X y había heredado de Franco llevarse de puta madre con los putos moros:

Spain and Portugal were also major problems for Fairbanks (Special Ambassador Richard Fairbanks, comisionado para conseguir que se dejara de vender por todas partes mierda milika a Irán en mitad de lo suyo con Irak y minando fragatas yanquis en el estrecho de Ormúz y ese tipo de pequñeces), but they remained impervious to Operation Staunch for as long as Washington lacked the political will to back up Fairbanks' threats. Helping Spanish Prime Minister Filippe Gonzales through the difficult referendum on Spanish membership in NATO was of greater strategic importance to the United States than "staunching" the $280 million in Spanish arms deliveries to Iran which occurred between 1983 and 1985 (*).

The Iranian Embassy in Spain was used as a point of contact by various arms purchasing agents, and black market deals were signed in Madrid as often as in London. Sometimes they were based on false information, and led to huge Iranian losses. This is what happened with the $56 million Heydari sting in 1982.

Spain had developed a solid trade relationship with Libya and Syria, and this provided additional opportunities to the black marketeers. In 1984, Iraqi Foreign Minister, Tariq Aziz, accused Spain of selling 155 mm artillery rounds to Syria and rerouting them to Iran. Syria had no 155mm guns capable of firing the NATO-standard ammunition purchased from Spain.

In 1981, Libya purchased 155 mm and 175 mm artillery shells from Spain in an extraordinary $156 million deal engineered by an enterprising black marketeer, George Starkman. Starkman, who had previously distinguished himself by selling Khaddafy fake "Startron" night-vision binoculars - and getting paid for them! - had convinced the Libyan leader he could supply US-built 155 mm and 175 mm howitzers, and hundreds of tons of ammunition. Starkman never got the guns - he never even tried - but documents show that he did manage to send Khaddafy entire shiploads of Spanish ammunition. For Khaddafy, the ammunition was useless. Not so for Iran. Under the Shah, Iran had purchased the M109-A1 and the M-107 howitzers from the US, and used them extensively in the war with Iraq.

Four of Spain's largest arms manufacturers - Gamesa, Santa Barbara, Explosivos Rio Tinto, Experanza y Cia and Explosivos Alavaesas (Expal, que el hombre no sabe donde va la "x") - used Libya (la de Gadaffi, ese amiguete de mal final) as the legal end user for munitions sold to Iran, and managed to keep the pipeline going despite Operation Staunch. The pipeline was shut down inadvertently in May 1986, when Felipe Gonzalez joined other European leaders in stopping arms sales to Libya because of its terrorist links. Once the Libyans ceased operating as middlemen (and taking their 25% commission), the Iran deals collapsed.

Portugal was also accused by US officials of exporting US-calibre artillery rounds to Iran in direct government-to-government agreements. The ammunition was produced in Portuguese factories, some of which operated on American licenses. Because the quantities were relatively small, the Portuguese claimed the deliveries would not affect the course of the war. Moreover, Portuguese officials contended with Fairbanks staffers that their sales were beneficial to the West "because they opened channels of information to Iran lacking ever since the US embassy shut down, and may have helped provide the Iranian military with an alternative to a total switchover to Soviet block weaponry." (los putugueses, incluido el de la ONU, son lo mejó)

But the Portuguese deliveries were not as small as all that. In 1984, Iran edged out Iraq as Portugal's principle arms customer. By 1985, Iran was buying ammunition worth $28 million, or 43.8% of all Portuguese arms exports. In 1986, that figure was believed to climb to 67% (**). Portugal was also known for providing fake EUC's to black marketeers trying to export US equipment to Iran.

Unconfirmed reports also alleged that Norte Importadora, acting with the full approval of the Portuguese Defense Ministry, repaired Iranian F-4 fighters using spare parts out of NATO stockpiles, and that two lots of TOW missiles were shipped to Iran from Portugal in May and December 1986. The first TOW shipment was for 4,020 missiles, at a cost to Iran estimated at $50 million, using Turkey as the fictitious end-user. 2,500 additional TOWs, worth $29 million, were shipped in December disguised as "plumbing equipment and medicine" (***).

Most of the Spanish and Portuguese deliveries involved the day-to-day hardware of the war, and not the modern weapons systems or high technology equipment Operation Staunch was meant to stop. As Fairbanks explained, "We never attempted to raise a total arms embargo. We figured there was no way in the world to stop Iran from getting artillery shells, bullets, bombs, and weapons like that."... y luego aparecen minas egipcias que han pasado por manos sirias en una playa de Almería con toda su carga de guerra... si es que lo que no nos pase.

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(*) The $280 million figure was put forward by the Madrid daily, El Pais, (February 9, 1987), and the Spanish Communist Party, which demanded a Parliamentary investigation. See also David White, "Madrid accused of Iran arms sale cover-up," Financial Times, February 10, 1987, and the February 11, 1987 issue of The Independent. The Fairbanks team knew Spain was selling US-made 106 mm recoilless rifles and 105mm ammunition directly Iran in 1984, but was unable to stop it.

(**) Scot J. Paltrow, "Portugal's Arms Dealers, Put in Spotlight by Iran Scandal, Prove to Be Embarrassing," Wall Street Journal-Europe, January 22, 1987; "Le Portugal au centre d'un trafic d'armes international," Le Matin de Paris, February 10, 1987.

(***) Jacques Palente, "Des Armes de l'Otan Pour l'Iran," VSD, January 23, 1987. Meanwhile, reports in Newsweek and The Washington Post in January and February 1987 revealed that a Portuguese firm, Defex-Portugal, played a leading role in supplying arms to the Contra rebels in Nicaragua. The arms were purchased by Energy Resources International, whose registered address in Vienna, Virginia coincided with an office used by General Richard Secord.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Secord